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	<title>Comments on: And breathe</title>
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		<title>By: leighblackall</title>
		<link>http://vicariousconversations.com/2008/05/and-breathe/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>leighblackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struggling to relate this to the DFLP course... its great to see the scope of your considerations, but it sounds as if a few other things are converging here and I&#039;m just a bit unclear on how you are relating it to the DFLP topics? (mainly so I can comment and extend the connection to the other participants).

Regarding how to use Wikis in formal learning: Perhaps &lt;a href=&quot;http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-wikipedia-by-william-badke/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post will point you in useful directions&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struggling to relate this to the DFLP course&#8230; its great to see the scope of your considerations, but it sounds as if a few other things are converging here and I&#8217;m just a bit unclear on how you are relating it to the DFLP topics? (mainly so I can comment and extend the connection to the other participants).</p>
<p>Regarding how to use Wikis in formal learning: Perhaps <a href="http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/what-to-do-with-wikipedia-by-william-badke/" rel="nofollow">this post will point you in useful directions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://vicariousconversations.com/2008/05/and-breathe/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard that a good argument will never result in gainsaying or quarrelling.  Some people I know believe that argument and debate foster change.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard that a good argument will never result in gainsaying or quarrelling.  Some people I know believe that argument and debate foster change.  <img src='http://vicariousconversations.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 09:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loggerheads = quarrelling (Dictionary.com is your friend)

And I have started the great project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loggerheads = quarrelling (Dictionary.com is your friend)</p>
<p>And I have started the great project!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you! It will be a good read.

Yes... that is a weird saying.  Logheads? W-w-what the?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you! It will be a good read.</p>
<p>Yes&#8230; that is a weird saying.  Logheads? W-w-what the?</p>
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		<title>By: alison</title>
		<link>http://vicariousconversations.com/2008/05/and-breathe/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burly, fat, tomayto, tomahto. ;)

I&#039;m going to start writing that book here.  Well not here, precisely but here, generally.

And I suppose it is always better to be arguing for the same thing, than being at loggerheads.  What a weird saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burly, fat, tomayto, tomahto. <img src='http://vicariousconversations.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to start writing that book here.  Well not here, precisely but here, generally.</p>
<p>And I suppose it is always better to be arguing for the same thing, than being at loggerheads.  What a weird saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 09:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burly... I thought I was fat? hahahaha!

You need to somehow one day to the week to write that book you know.  It would be a great read.  There are a few books out there that touch on it but almost none of them talk about &#039;mapping&#039; learning onto technology.  It&#039;s usually &#039;hey look at this!&#039; or &#039;wow you can do that with wikis!&#039; 

As for arguing the same point... I was laughing about then when I read it.  Perhaps we are so tired and exhausted we just thought it best to be angry?  I can&#039;t say for sure.  Although I reckon for better or worse we are still learning new things about students and the way they interact with technology... so how can that be all bad.  After all, innovation has a high price!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burly&#8230; I thought I was fat? hahahaha!</p>
<p>You need to somehow one day to the week to write that book you know.  It would be a great read.  There are a few books out there that touch on it but almost none of them talk about &#8216;mapping&#8217; learning onto technology.  It&#8217;s usually &#8216;hey look at this!&#8217; or &#8216;wow you can do that with wikis!&#8217; </p>
<p>As for arguing the same point&#8230; I was laughing about then when I read it.  Perhaps we are so tired and exhausted we just thought it best to be angry?  I can&#8217;t say for sure.  Although I reckon for better or worse we are still learning new things about students and the way they interact with technology&#8230; so how can that be all bad.  After all, innovation has a high price!</p>
<p>*Yawns*</p>
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